Karen Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383868/The-stroke-risk-index-Drinking-coffee-blowing-nose-cause-brain-aneurysm.html t's the perfect way to persuade your colleague to stop blowing his nose like a trumpet...Energetic nostril emptying has been revealed as the third biggest trigger for bursting a blood vessel in your brain, following drinking coffee and vigorous exercise. Sexual intercourse, straining to go to the toilet, being startled and losing your temper are other factors scientists identified that can lead to a brain aneurysm. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383868/The-stroke-risk-index-Drinking-coffee-blowing-nose-cause-brain-aneurysm.html#ixzz1LVT7GDgY Has anybody read this Daily Article article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocracy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383868/The-stroke-risk-index-Drinking-coffee-blowing-nose-cause-brain-aneurysm.htmlHas anybody read this Daily Article article? No but since my stroke I startle at loud noises, nearly jumping out of my skin. After getting an ischemic stroke, I really don't want to become a stroke collector. One stroke "medal of honour" per lifetime is enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Re: It's the perfect way to persuade your colleague to stop blowing his nose like a trumpet...Energetic nostril emptying has been revealed as the third biggest trigger for bursting a blood vessel in your brain, following drinking coffee and vigorous exercise. Sexual intercourse, straining to go to the toilet, being startled and losing your temper are other factors scientists identified that can lead to a brain aneurysm. I contacted the Daily Mail this evening and made a comment about the above paragraph and the fact that the above physical reasons do not physically make a brain aneurysm happen and that they need to get their facts right .... This paragraph has now been removed from the article, shortened and updated at 9.47pm this evening. I'm also hoping that they will edit the headline: The stroke risk index: Drinking coffee most likely to cause a brain aneurysm... closely followed by blowing your nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer34 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I guess they mean an aneurysm rupture rather than causing an aneurysm to appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 I don't think that they knew what they were talking about, as since contacting the newspaper, this article has been heavily edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKay Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Good for you! I don't know why I still read the DM lol.... they can never get their facts straight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin-lin Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I think they should change the headline to, 'Reading The Daily Mail is most likely to give you an aneurysm.’ All hospitals should remove the Daily Mail from their neuro wards until consultants are certain our operations have been successful… ..just in case(!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandi K Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 haha! Lynne, that's hilarious! :lol: Yes, they must have meant 'cause an existing aneurysm to rupture' but it didn't read that way initially. Did you read the comments below the article? thanks for posting it Karen. It's nice to have awareness but it would be even nicer if it were factual!! Sandi K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I also was sarcastic with my reply I wrote " woohoo so I can smoke 40 fags a day and drink beer as long as I avoid coffee and blowing my nose" lol articles like that go straight over my head cause it really is rubbish. Jess.xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Good to see that the Daily Mail also eventually edited the headline title too! xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelBel Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 OMG! I cannot believe that article, even in it's edited state so far! :shock: Shock tactics for us all to give up everything in life... if only they had done some research via BTGers... Kel x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 It was actually my Husband Eric who found this article. In the original non-edited article it stated that drinking coffee, blowing your nose, having sex caused brain aneurysms and the same information was in the title, which is incorrect and misleading, as you can see by reading some of the comments underneath the article. We all know here, that any rise/spike in BP can cause an aneurysm to burst. I can understand the error in the article happening once, but not twice and instead of just inserting the word "burst" a couple of times, this article has now been edited quite heavily and has been reduced in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaH Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) O the Daily Fail, they were having a day off from 'x caused cancer' I see Well done you on complaining and making them at least edit it a bit. I studied journalism as part of my degree and did work experience in a news room in the dim and distant past. From what I remember () you were meant to do a bit of research and fact checking and boring stuff like that before you print anything.... I'm 99% certain I was doing none of the 'dangerous' activities listed when I had my SAH... Edited May 6, 2011 by FionaH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnamarie Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 seems that the post has been updated here it is in different form http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnews/20110506/ts_usnews/healthbuzzcoffeesexincreaseaneurysmrisk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish.girl Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ah that explains a call from my dad today about drinking coffee! Thanks Donna Michelle x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul99 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 again they are using the american medical views a sah is not cured by reduceing blood pressure it needs surgery in most case's :shocked: why dont they talk to neurosugeons here in the uk sorry no offence to our friends in the states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) OMG I had my SAH in the middle of my hayfever-season... I remember I was blowing my nose every 5 minutes in the ICU before my coiling. I really had to beg for a nasalspray. They wouldn't want to give me one because they thought it could be harmfull.. As I read it now I could have easily blown myself out of this life right under their hands. Scary article. And I don't want to give up coffee, but apparently I can guiltlessly smoke! Edited May 8, 2011 by Nessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnamarie Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 MONO i smoked before my SAH and was told it had nothing to do with it as i didnt smoke many and hadnt smoked for a long time that said i was still told to STOP !!!! donna I think smoking is the biggest 'no no' of all so strange its not mentioned!!Would be interesting to see how many of our members here were smokers before SAH? Does anyone know what it is about coffee (I take it they mean all caffeine drinks)? Is it because it's a vaso dilator? (Or is it constrictor:crazy:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKay Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks to the Facebook page of the Brain & Spine Association, I have a link to an interesting NHS paper about the study. Click here to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz D Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Momo caffeine raises your blood pressure, I was told it's something to do with your adrenals but can't remember what. I was told no caffeine. I was also told not to be around smokers. Smoking causes your arteries to clog with plaque, which in turns narrows them. I have never smoked but my dad did and for 20 years I breathed in his secondhand smoke and everyone elses in pubs. This could have been why I developed an aneurysm. One theory is that I was genetically programmed with a defect in my artery and breathing his and others smoke caused it to narrow. It's when the blood pushes past the defect that it starts to balloon out. I suppose I will never know but the good thing about these days is smokers go outside and therefore susceptible people are not being exposed to second hand smoking. But when you look at how many people smoke and how so few people have aneurysms that ruptures, there has to be numerous reasons that cause them rupture. Just like it says in the NHS article, thanks for the link JayKay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hi there If you ask me all this information is very convoluted. I was told that smoking was in no way shape or form responsible for either my aneursym growing or rupturing. My arteries, according to the specialist, are like that of a twenty year old non smoker - I've smoked since I was fifteen. My blood pressure is "perfect" and always has been. I drink about eight cups of tea (which apparently has more caffeine than coffee) a day and have recovered remarkably well from my SAH. Let's face it - not everyone who smokes or who breathes in second hand smoke has an aneurysm - otherwise we wouldn't have the population we have now. Not everyone who smokes will get cancer and not all cancer is caused by smoking. Not everyone who drinks coffee or tea has high BP and not all high BP is caused by caffeine. There are many reasons for an aneurysm developing and rupturing - I ws told mine was probably a birth defect and was "lucky" that it took 35 years to rupture I was nto told to avoid caffeine but told to go and live my life the same as I was before my SAH. And that is exactly what I'm doing - if anything the SAH has taught me live life to the full. I still smoke and drink and I go out and I have a good time with friends and family - my BP is still perfect, as my GP tells me every three months. The key is everything in moderation, but enjoy your life - I am because I know I'm not going to get out of it alive no matter what I do or don't do. Have a lovely day everyone and enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaH Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 My consultant told me at the time and again yesterday in no uncertain terms not to smoke and that to do so would increase my risks of developing further annies. I smoked from being 18 - 24 and quit when I got pregnant with Rosie. I had slipped up again in the last couple of years but wasn't smoking daily and would often go a week or more and he still said this was enough to have increased my risk factors. I haven't smoked since my SAH and don't intend o ever again. All my friends would physically remove the fag if I tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandi K Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hi all, I don't smoke. When I was in hospital I was told to quit smoking, they assumed I was a smoker because I had a brain bleed I guess. The neurosurgeon, neurologist, and GP have all said don't smoke. I haven't smoked for 26 years! Sandi K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul99 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 im going to add my pennies worth with this thread if you dont mind anurisms are a mostly a genetic fault which one is born with a weakness in the wall of a blood vessel which over time weakens and causes the bulge and will sometimes burst rupture hence the sah some go with a bang others weep a small amount then reseal if you have a family history of family members suffering sah the drs sometimes scan the rest of the family as a matter of course it appears that women are more at risk but men still carry the same risk smoking may be a factor as is stress and high blood pressure its a conumdrum and i wish there could be a pill to prevent such events but there isnt i hope you dont mind me putting this in the pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonia Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Read the piece and thought, if I go by all that they mentioned. Then I may as well give up living my life. Heck no way. Maybe they should have a little read on this site. Sonia xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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